Posts by life is to short

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Are JCs a Nice Form of a "Breaking Session"?

by LostGeneration in

in doing some research a few years back, i came across the use of "breaking session" as something used to control cult members by leadership.

initially, i dismissed this a something smaller, more extreme cults use - and dismissed it as a technique used by the jw org.

here are a few descriptions of the process from http://changingminds.org/techniques/conversion/breaking_sessions.htm.

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When I was 18 years old two of the most prominent elders yanked me into the back room right in front of all my girlfriends. There might have been three elders but only the two really aggressive elders stick in my mind.

The reason was because some sister from the next hall over that I did not know thought she had seen me smoking. The elders were horrible to me. I was totally guilty in their eyes and nothing I said would convince they otherwise. I asked for the second witnesses and they did not have one so they let me go.

It was beyond hell in that room. They were pointing their fingers in my face demanding that I confuses, etc.

It totally describes what you posted to a tee what happened to me that day. Then just a few weeks latter they did the same thing all over again, this time they felt they knew they had me as the sister had supposedly came back to them and told them I hid my cigarettes in my purse. I had just moved out of my very, very abusive parents home and did not have a purse as I was so poor living on nothing. I just carried a wallet and my keys.

I will never forget the head elder pointed his finger in my face and said NOW WE HAVE YOU!!!!! He said it was pure glee in his voice. I just looked at them and said I do not own a purse, my purse broke and I do not have the money to buy a new one. I have not owned a purse for almost a year.
That took the air out of them and they let me go not knowing what else to do. I will never forget how hateful they were to me. There was absolutely no love for me there butstupidly I stuck around for years and even went to Bethel after that. I was such a stupid person and a true believer.
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Will homeowners insurance protect Jehovah's Witness Elders who conceal crimes and cause harm ?.... State Farm and others say: No...No coverage for "Willful acts".

by Balaamsass in

state farm: home policy has no coverage for sandusky defenseby chad hemenway, propertycasualty360.com.

july 24, 2012 reprints.

addthis button begin share on twittershare on facebookshare on emailshare on printmore sharing services412 addthis button end /add-this /article-meta (ap photo/gene j. puskar)nu online news service, july 24, 11:14 p.m. edt.

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When my husband insisted on taking the sister who had a baby under the age of one to the meetings the sister WOULD NOT PUT THE CHILD in a car seat PERIOD!!!

I still wonder why not? I mean what mom in her right mind would endanger her child like that. It was just totally crazy.

I wonder if she was hoping that we would get into an accident so she could sue us for allowing her to be so stupid. The first couple of times we took her she did have a car seat but then it disappeared and I never got a straight answer as to where it went. I offered to buy a car seat for her since she said she had no money was on welfare had been all of her life with all of her kids she had and all of them had different fathers. She got every hand out she could from the government and had always been around the truth looking for handouts from anyone who she could guilt into giving her one.

When I offered the car seat she got all upset at me telling me her child did not like and would not ride in one.

My husband and I fought and fought over it. One time on the way to picking her up a car blew through a stop sign and almost T-boned us. I was yelling at my husband that if she had been in the car even though we had not been hit the child would have went flying because my husband had to break so fast. Nothing I said made any impact on my husband. My husband was an elder and he was assigned to pick her up by the body of elders thus my husband felt it was his duty period and she being at the meetings was the most important thing in the world. My mental heath and stress as his wife did not mean as much to him as it did that this sister was at the meetings.

I told my husband that our car insurance would not cover a accident even if we were not at fault because we were breaking the law. My husband said no she was and she was the mother and so what were we supposed to do. I SAID TO NOT PICK HER UP AND LET HER RIDE WITH US!!!!!

It all fell on deaf years so I called the insurance company handed the phone to my husband and they told him they were going to drop us unless he stopped letting her ride with us.

He stopped taking her after that. but it really affected out marriage as I was just a dumb wife who worked her butt off to pioneer and I knew nothing over a welfare entitlement low life in the hall.

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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

by Balaamsass in

no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.

called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.

every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.

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BTT

This is a great thread for everyone to think about how corrupt the WT truly is.

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About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

by life is to short in

soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

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Wayward Son

I know I was like what? When I heard that also. Also when I told the police that the pedophile was holding and taking care of an child during the meetings again I was told that it was the elders who are responsible.

What was explained to me by the police was that the pedophile had done his time in prison he had paid for his crime. This one pedophile was on Meghan's list for everyone to see. So it was up to the elders to make sure he did not hold kids. The example given me was like a child care for children. A pedophile could apply for a job at a child care. It is not against the law, for a child molester to apply for a job, what is against the law is for the day child care to hire the pedophile. It is the duty of the day child care to do back ground checks on all the people they hire and who work there. If the child care dose not do back ground checks then they are libel.

Plus one of the really bad pedophiles in my hall was not on Meghan's list as he had raped kids in the 70's and was sent to prison but came out of prison in the early 90's before Meghan's list came into effect. So the elders said they did not have to worry about him as he raped kids so long ago and he was not on Meghan's list. I got his PUBLIC court and police records and the court records called him an an incurable sexual psychopath highly likely to reoffend. None of the elders would take his PUBLIC police and court records that I had retrieved and that I had made copies for all the elders.

One elder put his hands up in the air when I tired to give him the records and backed away from me like I was holding a gun on him. I asked why will you not just read what this pedophile did to his own daughter, that he raped his own daughter when she was five, but the elder just kept saying NO, NO, NO I will not look at them. I was totally blown away. Why not??? They were public records after all. This pedophile even held a baby shower in the hall for anther couple with his then third wife all with the elders blessings. This guy raped at least two children five to seven year olds in the 70's one of them being his own daughter. He learned the "truth" in prison and became a JW. As soon as he got out he married a JW with you guessed it a seven year old, divorced this women and married another JW you guessed it with another seven year old girl and they had a little girl together. All of this was done with the total blessings of the elders. Now he is divorced yet again and probably on the out look for JW wife number 4. This time the JW women will probably have grand-kids. The elders just love this guy and will do anything to stand up for him and to help him. I just do not get it.

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Thanks to everyone on this forum!

by cedars in

jw
friends

today is my first anniversary as a jwn member.

it's hard to believe that only a year has passed since i joined, but i feel that's a testament to how much i have been welcomed and made to feel like part of the furniture.. i would very much like to take this opportunity to thank everyone on the forum for the immense help and assistance i have received, particularly in my first few weeks/months of posting.

it truly was a lifeline at a very distressing time for me.

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I am so glad that you are here, I love your take on things and everything you have accomplished. JW survey is wonderful. Just thanks for all of your hard work.

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Candace Conti's Attorney Takes the Stage

by Juan Viejo2 in

rick simons takes the stage and tells why the candace conti lawsuit was the right case at the right time against the watchtower.. this is the first of at least three videos documenting mr. simons' presentation on july 14, 2012. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffywyvy9anm.

last segments of this program should be up within a few hours.. .

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btt

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Candace Conti's Attorney Takes the Stage

by Juan Viejo2 in

rick simons takes the stage and tells why the candace conti lawsuit was the right case at the right time against the watchtower.. this is the first of at least three videos documenting mr. simons' presentation on july 14, 2012. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffywyvy9anm.

last segments of this program should be up within a few hours.. .

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I just really want to thank you Juan Viejo2 for all of the hard work you went to.

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Candace Conti's Attorney Takes the Stage

by Juan Viejo2 in

rick simons takes the stage and tells why the candace conti lawsuit was the right case at the right time against the watchtower.. this is the first of at least three videos documenting mr. simons' presentation on july 14, 2012. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffywyvy9anm.

last segments of this program should be up within a few hours.. .

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btt This is truly a must see. What Mr. Simons described is what I went through in the hall I attended. The child molesters were allowed to interact with everyone and no one knew. There are just too many stories out there like this. The elders told me also that they were going to "watch the children" just like Candace and Mr. Simons said. It is truly amazing that this is happening.

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Candace Conti's Attorney Takes the Stage

by Juan Viejo2 in

rick simons takes the stage and tells why the candace conti lawsuit was the right case at the right time against the watchtower.. this is the first of at least three videos documenting mr. simons' presentation on july 14, 2012. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffywyvy9anm.

last segments of this program should be up within a few hours.. .

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Thanks so much Juan Viejo2

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New YouTube video: Candace Conti tells her story

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfhsewwd3wa.

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cedars.

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Thanks Juan Viejo2 and Ceaders.

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